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  What are the feelings/thoughts within 24-48 hours of exposure to an undeniably true (for you) TATT?

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  many of us know where we were during 9/11 or when john kennedy and martin luther king were killed.. it seems that when faced with ttatt, real truth is dismissed as "ol' light" or "an imperfect group of men" but from what i gather, many of you, at some point, were hit with a component of ttatt that shattered all of those cliches that allowed you to brush off the obvious reality that something was very wrong.

  some of you may remember the hours following your earliest exposures to an undeniably true tatt.

  did you zone completely out?

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  Witness My Fury

  Lots of swearing, emotional buzz probably just adrenalin, then a period of near obsession with it. Feelings can swing to anger and back to happyness several times before settling down. I remember the good feeling that came with the sheer mental freedom to actually question everything in my own mind and allowing myself to say out loud to myself thoughts and words forbidden by the cult. Simply vocalising the phrase "it's a f@cking cult" for the 1st time was cathartic.

  607 was the killer blow for me, I'd seen plenty of fluff (from my viewpoint at that time) as to what was wrong with the WTBTS etc and nothing really clicked until I got down to solid proof that a foundational doctrine was utter bollocks.
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  The Truth is Always Simple to Grasp.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i would like to share my understanding of armageddon & the end of the 1,000 year reign.

  i would really appreciate any criticism, or facts that dispute this understanding... especially if the facts are from the bible.. - adam & eve were perfect and they sinned with a perfect mind & body.. - all mankind that has lived since adam & eve have been imperfect, none have had the ability to resist sin, nor have they had the ability to see or understant absolute truth that can only originate from god.. - if imperfect humans were judged, while still imperfect, one could reason that adam & eve had been given a better chance at life then what the rest of humanity was given.. - 1 john 4:8,9.

  - 1 timothy 2:6. armageddon.

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  Witness My Fury

  As Jgnat hinted at, you need to understand how and why we have the bible we do before jumping to the next level of believing it a certain way and any spin or interpretation of a particular translation of it.

  http://www.globalgrey.co.uk/Books/Gnosticism/Misquoting-Jesus.pdf

  http://islamic-replies.ucoz.com/Bible_Books/22916607-Jesus-interrupted-Bart-D-ehrman.pdf

  Plenty of other useful stuff here:

  http://www.globalgrey.co.uk/Pages/Main-Books/Books-Gnosticism.html#.UuI0kBBFC00
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  Someone I know wants to go back to the meetings

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am presently fadding out and a person that i know sent me an email telling me he was going back to his meeting.

  how can i let him know that i think he probably will be better outside if he keeps trying without running the risk that he goes back and forward the email to a local elder?.

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  Witness My Fury

  Avoid putting anything in writing that can be used against you.

  A simple link to jwfacts or a statement might be doable, but dont comment on it with your viewpoints that could then be used against you.
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  Fallacies Illustrated

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found today:.

  http://twentytwowords.com/2013/09/17/silly-illustrations-of-logical-fallacies-12-pictures/.

  a long-time favorite:.

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  Witness My Fury

  Thanks.
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  You need to be careful what you 'think' now..

  by Dis-Member in

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  lauryn hill ordered by the court to undergo counseling due to her conspiracy theories.

  http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/lauryn-hill-ordered-by-the-court-to-undergo-counseling-due-t-her-conspiracy-theories/#jo3bjzq8mezty40j.01.

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  Witness My Fury

  My comment about you was regarding your comparision of this site to a conspiracy theory site, not about your OP. Stay focused and try not to take everything as a personal attack.
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  You need to be careful what you 'think' now..

  by Dis-Member in

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  lauryn hill ordered by the court to undergo counseling due to her conspiracy theories.

  http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/lauryn-hill-ordered-by-the-court-to-undergo-counseling-due-t-her-conspiracy-theories/#jo3bjzq8mezty40j.01.

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  Witness My Fury

  Your OP
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  You need to be careful what you 'think' now..

  by Dis-Member in

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  2. current

  lauryn hill ordered by the court to undergo counseling due to her conspiracy theories.

  http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/lauryn-hill-ordered-by-the-court-to-undergo-counseling-due-t-her-conspiracy-theories/#jo3bjzq8mezty40j.01.

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  Witness My Fury

  There is no comparison between that website and this one. WTF are you smoking?
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  You need to be careful what you 'think' now..

  by Dis-Member in

  1. social
  2. current

  lauryn hill ordered by the court to undergo counseling due to her conspiracy theories.

  http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/lauryn-hill-ordered-by-the-court-to-undergo-counseling-due-t-her-conspiracy-theories/#jo3bjzq8mezty40j.01.

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  Witness My Fury

  Well if you will read websites devoted to conspiracy theories such as that one then you are on the slippery slope to their shared delusion.

  The tag line there is:

  read their piece about Miley Cyrus as an example of it.

  So it's hardly likely to be a reaslistic view on the Lauren Hills tax affairs or state of mind either is it.
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  the new jw bible and the verses they removed

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i noticed they removed several important ones like mark 16:9-20 acts 8:37 and romans 16:24, so how does one find out if there is any relevance to them removing these verses and others.

  they of course say these verses were not found in the oldest manuscripts so how can we see if they are correct or lying??

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  Witness My Fury

  Read these (and others):

  http://www.globalgrey.co.uk/Books/Gnosticism/Misquoting-Jesus.pdf

  http://islamic-replies.ucoz.com/Bible_Books/22916607-Jesus-interrupted-Bart-D-ehrman.pdf
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  Should I meet with the elders?

  by winnie12 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i posted my story somewhere on this board but long story short i have been expressing my doubts to my mom who is a jw.

  i have been fading since december 2013 and went to a sunday meeting for the first time maybe two weeks ago.

  i went only because i wanted to use the library that my hall has which had books published by the society from the early 1900's.

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  Witness My Fury

  Sounds like she has been telling the elders about your doubts and is resposible for them wanting to meet with you. if you are baptised then this is slippery ground and will end in tears.